Gary Direnfeld

And especially if they're not cared for or the house is...

That, and he probably has people who, he has cat people who come in to care for them.

What do we do in this scenario?

So let's differentiate between a very recent separation where the parent hasn't adjusted.

They're angry and they kind of pop off to their kid negatively about the other parent.

The kid goes back to that parent.

I got to tell you, that's almost part and parcel of most separations.

And the parent has to learn how to handle that if it should occur.

And the handling is, okay, you've come back from the other parent loaded for bear.

I know.

They're angry with me, sweetie.

Come on.

Let's go make dinner.

You don't get your own knickers in a knot.

You don't start firing back at the other parent.

You carry on with life.

That is differentiated from some parents who maybe because they have some narcissistic tendencies, how dare you separate from me?

I'm the best thing since sliced bread.

And they are actively out to undermine the child's relationship with the other parent.

And they're using that child as a pawn to hurt them.