Gary Direnfeld

And I think of the sort of day after, like the staff, the students going back to the school.

What is returning to a scene like that, really a crime scene after such a tragedy?

And that's what's so sad and so troubling of having to continue to go to a school every day in an aftermath like that.

Likely, I guess, reliving the trauma over and over again.

You know, it's really easy to ask these open-ended questions.

I've heard them all day.

I'm about to ask one myself.

But I really want to dig into what the answer looks like.

And it is, how does a community heal from something like this?

How does a close-knit community heal from something like this?

That's in the near term, but in the more medium term, like mental health practitioners, like I know you're a psychology professor, you study this stuff, like how do we intervene?

Are there the resources to intervene?

Like what does talking this through in the next one, three, six months look like with community members?

And it's precisely like over time accepting that things won't be fine, that where healing lives, like what does healing look like?

Are there things you would want family members, people close to the victims or survivors to know in the near term?

Like, I assume one of them isn't necessarily listening to this show, but there are people that go through tragedy and they're the family and loved ones of those who went through it, whether they're gone or surviving it.

What would you want them to know in a moment like this?

Well, our thoughts, our condolences are with the families and community right now in Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia.

Steve, I've enjoyed this chat.

Again, I wish you'd come under better circumstances, but thanks for going through it with me.