Gary Fowler

fund created.

They haven't yet.

And they haven't yet, but some of them are becoming, you know, pretty mature.

So there's several of them that that could happen to.

But, you know, we only did it.

There's some of the companies are still they're growing, but they need some time.

Because we, you know, from my standpoint, I was at that time I had been over in Moscow, Russia, and, you know, I had done most of my work for my career in Silicon Valley.

And I decided that Silicon Valley was the best place for me.

There was a

And things were slowing down with the current economic situation in Russia.

And so it made a whole lot of sense to have my managers over there run the company.

And I decided to come over here.

We have people here.

We've got folks located in.

folks located in other places in Eastern Europe.

Well, because, well, I mean, the salaries are one thing, but the other thing, Nathan, the, there's some, uh, in terms of artificial intelligence and my partner's got his PhD in AI.

I mean, one of the things is you need to find the kind of talent.

One is where is it located?

Two is, how much does it cost?

Within Abbey, David has 700 engineers, so obviously he has a handle on that market.