Gary Fox

But what did you want out of this?

Where did Bamboo end up?

And had you built up any equity?

Did they give you any kind of upside or anything?

No, I didn't.

I was pretty naive at the time.

God bless your mission.

Honestly, they're really a deal on that.

But bring me back to the day you left Bamboo.

What were you thinking?

Were you kind of going, right, I've done the hard yards.

Now it's time to cash in all my reputational chips and start to build something myself.

Or how did this come about?

talking to Lisa about this guy I'd met like the passion the creativity the way he talked the way he talked about things it's my favorite thing even if they're not business owners obviously founders are my favorite people in the world to talk to but I love telling people are passionate about what they do it doesn't really matter what it is just that they're so passionate about it whether it's farming or anything if they just are passionate it lights me up to see other people lit up that way

What do you mean?

even just to keep on top of basic admin and basic paperwork.

It's a very good point you made at the very start of the conversation is that like in very few bigger businesses do you go in and go, oh, I only want Conor to make my coffee.

It just doesn't happen.

And the coffee is a simple example, but again, my point, like if I go in and my barber's not there, I'm not going to just go, oh yeah, whoever.

You just don't.