Gary Jubelin

But in the same regards, it was the values of the society at the time.

I was always, always surprised where a crime had happened and detectives or police that have been in the area for a long time would go out or instantaneously say, this is where we've got to go.

These are the people who have done it.

And that's that type of community policing you're talking about.

Yeah, you had your finger on the pulse on what was going on in the community.

Well, I like the fact that sitting down speaking to a former cop that enjoyed it because I still think it's one of the world's best jobs, policing.

bleed blue no matter what yeah i can i can see in the way that you're talking about your body language that you enjoy that um detectives what where how did that start because you you went into uh a listing which is preparing to be a detective so i started i sort of put my foot in it

You got the taste of it.

Okay.

Let's talk about the pawn shop when you're working undercover there.

I like that operation.

And we'll just clarify when we're talking pawn.

A-W.

P-A-W.

Okay.

Not O-R.

Undercover in a porn.

That's a shame.

I'm sure the listeners would have loved to hear about working undercover in a porn store.

inner city Sydney but in any case you know that was but yeah that was an interesting three months operation tell us about that because I remember when that was going down I think it was uh Phil Meehan and Martin Slott from the region I was working in were involved in it there would have been a few few others yes um explain it because it was a at the time I thought a novel idea and