Gary Jubelin

And then sort of...

Oh, well, it's trustworthy.

It was just a borrowed tick.

And that would set everyone up going, well, they're trustworthy.

So what's the biggest one that you've seen, like as in someone that's lost significant, without naming names or the people that you've dealt with?

What sort of things were they coming at?

Like you would push back a little bit or would you?

So they had a couple going.

So that would have been like once they've identified this bloke, we've got him here.

I reckon we can get him again with another one.

Telling him.

And what was – this fascinates me.

Like it's when the facts are presented to them.

Well, I suppose, again, it's human nature.

We've all had friends or we've been in relationships where you believe in the person even when the common sense is telling you, no, that's not right, and you just choose to.

So the complexity of it, you'd be overwhelmed.

Huge.

It's difficult because you know the way police work as I do and, yeah, the different jurisdictions.

You put all that together, send it off to Interpol or make connections with overseas law enforcement and

You're not going to get a lot of attention on it.