Gary Jubelin

Aggie and I also discussed what should be done to prevent this kind of senseless, predictable violence from destroying another family.

Now, we make no apologies for what we're calling for.

Have a listen and you tell me if we're wrong.

Aggie DeMauro, welcome back.

Part two of I Catch Killers.

I was worried that the conversation that we were having would get you cranky, but I should have worried about it getting myself cranky because it's frustrating.

It's frustrating and…

With all the paperwork that you sent to me about your daughter's case and the long, numerous conversations we've had, I can understand why you feel frustrated with the fact that people don't seem to be listening.

Because what we're talking about seems like common sense.

Yeah.

That was – you're talking about the Victoria Law Reform Commission.

I dug up an article from February of this year and in the article, this is what they say and we'll talk more on this.

Following Celeste's killing, the Victoria Law Reform Commission probed gaps in stalking legislation, tabling a final report in September 2022, as you just said.

It included 45 recommendations, of which 34 called on the Victorian government to take direct action.

Laws set to be debated in Parliament this week would address just three of the recommendations, including clarifying the definition of stalking and giving courts tougher powers to clamp down on stalkers.

They would also allow courts to issue interim personal safety intervention orders on their own initiative, limit unnecessary cross-examination of the victims and more clearly define the offence.

Okay, so that's February 2006, 45 recommendations, and how many have been implemented?

What were some of the recommendations you think were valid and appropriate?

I'm hearing what you're saying.

That makes a lot of sense.