Gary Jubelin

You've got to address it.

But dropping it down to stalking, and I can imagine how the courts would maneuver their way around that.

No, stalking, well, it's used carriage service, and that's contacting people inappropriately or harassment type.

But we're talking stalking, and that's where the focus should be.

And that's the ridiculous part of it.

The recommendation on the SASH, and I think that's, if they have a system that helps educate, and that's what I'm seeing, like an assessment tool, the screening assessment of stalking and harassment, a triage tool used to help frontline professionals quickly identify cases that need more urgent or comprehensive response.

I don't have a problem with that.

I think that's a step in the right direction.

And Laura Richards that I was talking about in part one, the world's expert on it, introduced something similar that's been used in the UK.

I think that's a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure if it's the trial period that was tested in, I'm referring to Victoria here, in three police stations or three area commands, but hasn't been implemented across the state.

Is that your understanding of it?

Right.

Okay.

That's concerning.

Well, it hasn't been implemented and put out there.

Well, okay.

We want to try and step forward.

People aren't doing it, but we can make the suggestion and hopefully people are listening to what we're saying here that it should be implemented.

I think it's a no-brainer.

If police can't see the risk associated with stalking, we need a system like SASH so it sort of