Gary Jubelin

And I asked the very question, if a tracking device was in place, like a monitor, do you think it would have made the world of difference?

Because they had concerns.

They could see it building up.

And they said, most definitely.

Absolutely.

How many people in this situation could be saved by simple technology?

And then the next step-

Because where we're at now, if someone breaches their order, we've got the option of putting them in custody.

So that's going from there straight to custody.

This just gives another step before they go into custody.

If they've got... And their jails are full.

If we've got...

the monitors in place, that's the second stage.

If they breach that, well, okay, everything that's been done can be done.

They deserve to be in jail and they get put into custody.

But it's frustrating, Aggie.

I get frustrated thinking about it.

I can only imagine how you feel given what you've been through and

Well, all the promises seem to be very short term, don't they?

They ride on the back of the publicity.