Gary McKinnon

Okay.

Oh, I'm a submarine.

I'm tripping now.

And like, you know, they're dealing drugs.

They've got Hell's Angels gangs bringing in the drugs.

And so that was interesting for a human story.

Yeah.

It's nothing to do with what we're here to discuss today, but it's entertaining.

Okay, that's fascinating.

I thought for a second you were talking about like MKUltra mind control, like taking LSD at the bottom of submarines and testing consciousness.

Okay, so just, you know, recreational, spice it up down there.

Interesting.

Make the 9 to 5 less boring.

Yeah.

And so you're systematically, you're looking for UFOs, you're looking for free energy, any other like, you know, kind of terms that are on your mind in going into this search?

No, that was my main focus.

And with UFOs, it was particularly the propulsion.

What I was interested in was the energy and the propulsion.

Aliens didn't excite me so much because I'm sure they exist because it's a huge universe.

But I wanted something that we could use.