Gary McKinnon

China was about to do a deal with Venezuela.

That's right.

I think it would only amount to like 1% or 2% of China's imports, but it's still something.

Yeah, still something.

They're sitting on a lot of oil there.

And you see these crazy sort of game theory dynamics vis-a-vis China taking place with Greenland and other places.

So it all cuts to these.

And if you look at why the U.S.

had to back down off this recent...

you know, trade agreement deal with China and kind of concede some things.

It was due to rare earth refinement being basically a monopoly in China.

And so, you know, these things are like very real things geopolitically.

And so if I agree with you, I think it's very interesting if there's any sort of novel exotic physics that's stuck in a compartment in the government, you know, I'd like to know as well.

And I even think there are probably interesting ways to use it geopolitically.

Like, if you have it where it's, like, it's some sort of carrot for, like, okay, maybe you don't give it to, like, you know, gross dictators or whatever, but it's, like, a way to, like, incentivize reform or I don't know.

But, like, just keeping it to yourself, that seems wrong, maybe.

Yeah, yeah.

But you're right.

It's a real hard line to walk, isn't it?

How do you have that public for you but not public for other countries?