Gary McKinnon

That is a closed system.

And he kind of implied that they approached him in certain cases.

And because of the fact that it was this closed system, he didn't want to engage.

Wow.

So very interesting.

So they end up with your stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, they were, um, when the British police at the time it was the NHTCU national high tech crime unit in the UK.

Um, at first they said to me, oh, you'll get six months.

It's a computer misuse act 1995 in Britain, six months community service, no time.

And then they went to America and visited.

Oh, and I and other top brass.

And when they came back, the tone had totally changed.

That was just really serious.

which of course eventually turned into facing 70 years in prison.

So it was a huge, like using a hammer to crack a nut.

It was, you know, David and Goliath, that whole thing.

So wild.

Well, it's huge.

Like you said earlier, I was just a guy, normal guy, interested in UFOs, happened to have some IT skills, a little bit of hacking, black passwords, nothing genius level.