Gary McKinnon

Was a place of torture.

Does it mean professionally in London?

or like as a whole like giving away secrets or if he's literally saying these are state secrets yeah and then i don't know if the caveats are like i don't want you know i really don't want to be implicated for having said this so i'm going to sprinkle in some doubt or whatever i don't know but it's interesting yeah but um so so you you are do you want to pull off one of these experiments or

Oh, hell yeah.

I'm planning it by April, the latest.

I've been distracted for a while and had to do other things.

I'm only doing these experiments in a 10 by 10 foot shed and they're not expensive, but they consume a lot of time.

Yeah.

And I have, I'm basically doing industrial processes in a garden shed.

So it's, it's a bit, I've got, but the first thing I bought, cause you have to eat this stuff to a thousand degrees, the calcium copper titillate, uh, to a thousand degrees.

And then I had to buy a 10 ton hydraulic press.

Uh, I bought a gas furnace.

And then because of the geometry and stuff that wasn't unusual.

So then I bought an electric furnace, which is much smaller and, you know, easy to manipulate this tiny disc.

So cool.

It's only 40 millimeters across.

I'm starting off very small.

So I've got to make that into what they call a green body, make that solid.

I bought really high quality silver paste as the plates.

But then after that, you have to think of when you've got these two plates at 30 kilovolts or more, you get arcing currents, you get sparks, basically.