Gary Murphy

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230 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard May 2026 last heard 13 Jun

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The Pat Kenny Show · 20 Years Since Charles Haughey's Death · 13 Jun 2026 podcast

There is.

And certainly Hockey, a bit like his father-in-law, Sean Lamass, he was a great man for compartmentalisation.

He could quite easily compartmentalise the complex parts of his life.

So you mentioned like policies versus sort of the individual.

Or even take his attitude to his wife, Maureen, who was a marvellous woman who I interviewed on a number of occasions over my research.

And of course, we know that Mr. Hockey conducted a longstanding affair.

with the journalist Terry Keane.

It's a matter of a public record for quite a long time.

But I have no doubt from talking to Maureen Hockey and those close to her that she loved him very dearly and he loved her.

And I don't think, you know, and people would say, well, how could he love her?

He was carrying on a longstanding affair.

She was very loyal to him in the end and certainly over the course of the last decade.

six or seven years of his life when he was kind of consigned to Kinsele.

But he was very, he was well able, as I said, to sort of compartmentalise the different attitudes and different parts of his life.

And on the sort of the corruption question, for instance, many people who gave him money, they're on public record,

Dermot Desmond famously said, again on the record, I gave Charlie Haughey a million pounds, it would have been then, and I'd have happily given him a million more.

And I interviewed Mr. Desmond and he told me straight, looked me right in the eye and he said, I gave Haughey money and I expected nothing back from it.

And there was a lot of people like that.

Now there are others who say the sheer act of taking money from a figure who was involved in business in Ireland...

leaves one open to the allegation of corruption.

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