Gary O'Reilly

Oh, yeah, but you're not doing a backflip off the rocks, are you?

All right, so enough about sly.

So when you're planning a major ascent, are you physically training for that particular climb, or have you got all of your toolkit ready, you just need to polish it up and get going?

Okay, so you landed on that button.

How are you working with the development mentally?

You're looking at the bottom up at this climb.

How do you then configure how you address that with your own thoughts?

So the psychology is he's taken away, you, he, you have taken away this issue and minimized it because you've said, it doesn't matter if it's a thousand or 50, the death is the outcome.

So you've just taken, you've just made something that could be big and dramatic like Chuck's fear of flying and put it in its own box.

So your planning, I'm guessing, is pretty much meticulous.

So what point is there when you think, I've overthought this, and all of a sudden these things start to spiral around in your mind?

Do you get to that point?

Are you disciplined enough just to keep it at meticulous?

Do you have that point where you're mid-climb and you think, shit, I left the light on in the bathroom and you've lost your concentration?

Or are you able to discipline yourself?

And it goes back to that point of discipline.

No, you know, something comes over you.

So you're able to shut that down in your own mentality quickly?

Remember the Ironman interview?

And it wasn't until later in his career that he was able to get out of his own head and finish the race in first place.