Gary O'Reilly

but it took that time to not listen to the sort of things about whatever it was going on in his head.

So are you able to shut that right down?

It's become a muscle memory almost.

That's tapping into something there.

Motivation.

The motivation to do El Capitan, the motivation to do, and we haven't discussed it, the Taipei 101, which you streamed live on Netflix.

So what's the motivation?

Because for me, I'm in competition with opponents or, you know, if a tennis pro or a soccer player.

Are you just in competition with yourself?

They'd have been looking at the amygdala, so that sort of fear factor.

And from memory, you kind of registered less than the control during the test.

So are you putting that down to nature, or is this something you've nurtured?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Makes sense.

Well, let's jump into your foundation, the Honnold Foundation.

You like, remember the surfer, Kai Lennie?

Yes.

He's well into environmental projects, just like you are, with solar energy projects.

So please expand on this whole foundation that you've formed and does it have its roots in the fact that you spend so much of your time in the great outdoors?

You were living in your van?