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Gary Shteyngart

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The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Just enjoy the fat, you know.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

But sometimes this greater meaning combines with this egotistical impulse to have more and more and more, and to not die is one of those almost Protestant kind of extension of everything and striving.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Why should the striving ever end?

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Well, there's the search for greater meaning, then there's where you're searching for it.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

I mean, one of the fundamental things about SuperSAD that feels like a fundamental thing in modern life is everybody's looking for it in a screen.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And one of the fun fill-ups of the book is that talking to other people is called verbaling.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

You've needed to create a different linguistic category for what it is we're doing when we have a conversation.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And, you know, screens are made by corporations.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Yes, yes.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Corporations have their own incentives and their own things they're trying to do.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And what they're trying to do is not make you happy.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

They're trying to make you keep coming back.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And nothing keeps you coming back like a ranking.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

There was a funny tweet I saw today.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And it said, you know, Sisyphus's life would have been much better if every time he got the rock to the top, he got some points.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

And if he could then exchange those points for stickers.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Stickers that he could put on the rock, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Yeah, that'd be great.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Oh my God.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Keep Telling People We’re Living in This Dystopian Novel

Now that is really, really smart.