Gary Whitta

Right.

And you'll just, and you'll have like steam machine verified is going to be a thing, right?

The same.

Right.

And, and, and I think you're going to see that,

when if this xbox pc hybrid machine comes to comes to fruition anyone who ships a pc game is going to have to make sure they it runs clean on that machine right yeah it runs well on that hardware because we know it's not going to be it's not going to be a 50 90 right it's going to be like mid-range like the steam machine is like it's good but it's not like yeah no it's going to be but for this form for this little form factor right yeah because i've spoken to people that it's great it's actually it's smaller than you think apparently

It's really quite small.

And I'm very excited about getting one in the living room and just having it sit in the little box.

As for Xbox, who knows?

I do think the Play Anywhere stuff, the cloud thing is, until that architecture gets to a point where it's flawless and it's a long way off from that, I think the solution is going to be more, or at least a hybrid of, there's still going to be local hardware, but we're making it, again, there'll be a nice little box.

I think we're a long way from then not...

being a box in your living room anymore.

There's always going to be some kind of native box with native hardware for a while yet, I think.

At least one more generation, right?

Xbox is going to ship another piece of hardware, I think.

Sony obviously is going to ship a PS6.

No.

So for cloud gaming, I've only done Xbox cloud gaming and... PlayStation?

No.

Shadow?