Gavin de Becker

And the death rate for unvaccinated children, of which there are 9 million in America, is zero.

Meaning the unvaccinated and the vaccinated both have the same death rate, zero.

But people have died from measles.

Yes, people have died from measles.

But all of these diseases, the death rates that are the scariest are old death rates, right?

First of all, measles was in descent anyway up until, you know, as it headed into the 80s.

It was already going from, you know, up here to down here on the graph.

Why is that?

Indoor plumbing, better nutrition.

The same thing that helped with almost every disease here.

But this is 2024.

And what I said was in the 22 years before that, there had not been a death.

So what's causing these kids to die?

Well, I don't know if you've had Pierre Corian or other people.

This would be a medical question about whether these kids actually died of measles or died of poor medical care.

And died with measles.

Yeah, died with measles, etc.

Well, they had bad treatment.

It's a question for somebody like Pierre Corey.

I'm going to back away from the question.