Gavin de Becker

I mean, back to the very beginning.

Look, humanity, the history of humanity includes that the greatest funding will always go to weapons.

And so scientists became – they weren't always in the position they're in, that they're in American society and Western society today.

But they became very important because you could figure out things like nuclear weapons and bioweapons.

And if you have bioweapons that are ethnically targeted, that will be a big advancement.

And there's no reason in the world to believe that China, Russia, the United States and other superpowers aren't working on that.

Oh, boy.

And we are you know, we we would vote against it if there was a referendum.

Right.

We meaning you and me and maybe Jamie.

I can't tell about Jamie.

OK.

Would you, Jamie?

Jamie's a good guy.

OK.

He's he's he's he's raising his eyebrows.

I don't know what what to think.

But anyway, many I think probably most intelligent people would say, yeah, let's not do that.

Right.

And in fact, most intelligent people might say if we could go back and not have nuclear weapons, let's go back to that.