Gavin de Becker

George Carlin had a great joke.

He said, it wasn't even a joke.

We said it on The Tonight Show.

He said, I really love people as individuals, but as soon as you get two or more together, I can't stand them.

So political parties, governments, all of that stuff.

Well, large groups.

It can't be stopped.

Congress is like that.

We'll declare war on some country and no one person is responsible.

But I would like to say something optimistic, Joe.

And that is that, you know, what COVID did something, the disaster of it, I'm not talking only about the virus.

I looked at my life and said, what are the ways, things that I'm grateful for today that didn't exist?

I made a strong commitment to travel with my kids because we were told we couldn't.

And I'm very grateful for that having happened.

I lost a lot of relationships, as I'm sure you did, and we both will after this talk today.

But I also made some of the strongest relationships in my life.

I mean, people now who you or I could show up at their front door in a crisis at 2 in the morning, and they'd let us in.

Yeah.

Well, you found out who's courageous.

That's a very important piece.