Gavin de Becker

Because they are deeply corrupted.

And probably right after pharma, they are the most responsible for the suffering that people went through.

You know, during the COVID years, 6 million people died from just regular things in America.

alone because their families couldn't be with them, right?

You had a whole year in which you couldn't go to the hospital and hold the hand of your father.

I had that, right?

I could not be with my father when he died.

One of the most important passages in our lives is to be there for each other in that time, just like childbirth.

And so these are dark outcomes.

And in America, we have more of an opportunity to resist than most other countries do.

And I hope more people will be skeptical and will do it.

And that there's hope in that.

I mean, there's optimism in that.

But I just have to let go of all of my beliefs that this is outrageous, meaning this is not outrageous.

This is the way things are.

Me too.

I was as gullible as the very people that I, you know, I look in the car and see the guy with two masks in the next car.

I was just as gullible, just different things.

Maybe this is a blessing to come out of COVID because it was very persuasive.

What does – I mean, I can get pissed off at many things.