Gavin de Becker
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But I guess you knew that from some other shows because doing it at that time, you know, the insult that goes with that one is AIDS denier.
We're not talking about that.
We're talking about whether HIV is always the cause of AIDS.
By the way, another Duisburg story is that there's a couple that adopted a baby in Romania.
They're covered in this documentary House of Numbers and they adopt the baby.
It's tested for AIDS in Romania, tested for HIV and negative.
Uh-oh, the baby is HIV positive.
Yeah, there's great Kerry Mullis stuff.
He died right before COVID, unfortunately.
But anyway, so they adopt this kid, and the kid is HIV positive, little girl.
And the doctors say, well, baby, you got to put this kid on AZT in a hurry.
So they put the kid on AZT.
Now you see videos, home movies where the kid can't stand up, is falling, loses weight.