Gavin Newsom

I mean, is there a case that you can make? Is there a case that Trump himself at this moment, particularly, he can defend? Or do you just think he went further than he realized he went? And this is completely reckless, not just taking the risk.

I mean, is there a case that you can make? Is there a case that Trump himself at this moment, particularly, he can defend? Or do you just think he went further than he realized he went? And this is completely reckless, not just taking the risk.

I mean, is there a case that you can make? Is there a case that Trump himself at this moment, particularly, he can defend? Or do you just think he went further than he realized he went? And this is completely reckless, not just taking the risk.

And we saw that, of course, with Biden. I mean, he he built off Trump's targeted tariffs and Biden administration certainly had that.

And we saw that, of course, with Biden. I mean, he he built off Trump's targeted tariffs and Biden administration certainly had that.

And we saw that, of course, with Biden. I mean, he he built off Trump's targeted tariffs and Biden administration certainly had that.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think you marked two profoundly consequential moments, the WTO. It's interesting just even talking to members of the Clinton administration, talking former President Clinton himself about WTO and its aftermath. I think there's not only a reckoning in terms of our politics today and direct... connection in that respect.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think you marked two profoundly consequential moments, the WTO. It's interesting just even talking to members of the Clinton administration, talking former President Clinton himself about WTO and its aftermath. I think there's not only a reckoning in terms of our politics today and direct... connection in that respect.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think you marked two profoundly consequential moments, the WTO. It's interesting just even talking to members of the Clinton administration, talking former President Clinton himself about WTO and its aftermath. I think there's not only a reckoning in terms of our politics today and direct... connection in that respect.

But I think there's a growing recognition of the outsized consequence of the WTO. But I also appreciate your point about the Wall Street relief and this sort of Main Street, Wall Street frame after the financial crisis with, you know, and obviously the Biden, excuse me, Obama administration inherited a lot of that and sort of maintained not totally dissimilar policies.

But I think there's a growing recognition of the outsized consequence of the WTO. But I also appreciate your point about the Wall Street relief and this sort of Main Street, Wall Street frame after the financial crisis with, you know, and obviously the Biden, excuse me, Obama administration inherited a lot of that and sort of maintained not totally dissimilar policies.

But I think there's a growing recognition of the outsized consequence of the WTO. But I also appreciate your point about the Wall Street relief and this sort of Main Street, Wall Street frame after the financial crisis with, you know, and obviously the Biden, excuse me, Obama administration inherited a lot of that and sort of maintained not totally dissimilar policies.

as it relates to that bailout and the consequences to the populism that we're experiencing today. Let me just back up, just talking about the challenges of today. I mean, knowing Donald Trump is the way you know him, how does he get out of this?

as it relates to that bailout and the consequences to the populism that we're experiencing today. Let me just back up, just talking about the challenges of today. I mean, knowing Donald Trump is the way you know him, how does he get out of this?

as it relates to that bailout and the consequences to the populism that we're experiencing today. Let me just back up, just talking about the challenges of today. I mean, knowing Donald Trump is the way you know him, how does he get out of this?

Is it just, you know, he's got 60 countries, you've got 60 leaders come in, one off, he starts negotiating BS deals that he claims credit for having, quote unquote, succeeded in level setting the playing field? Or is there going to be more sweeping across the board recalibration with the EU, as an example, or other allies? What's your over-under in terms of the next days, not just weeks? Yeah.

Is it just, you know, he's got 60 countries, you've got 60 leaders come in, one off, he starts negotiating BS deals that he claims credit for having, quote unquote, succeeded in level setting the playing field? Or is there going to be more sweeping across the board recalibration with the EU, as an example, or other allies? What's your over-under in terms of the next days, not just weeks? Yeah.

Is it just, you know, he's got 60 countries, you've got 60 leaders come in, one off, he starts negotiating BS deals that he claims credit for having, quote unquote, succeeded in level setting the playing field? Or is there going to be more sweeping across the board recalibration with the EU, as an example, or other allies? What's your over-under in terms of the next days, not just weeks? Yeah.

No, I mean, I think that course was set weeks and weeks prior to the tariffs as it relates to the reordering our alliances. Right. J.D. Vance's speech in Munich, the security conference, and talking down and past our allies, and as you said, the ambush in the Oval with Zelensky and the messages that have been sent.

No, I mean, I think that course was set weeks and weeks prior to the tariffs as it relates to the reordering our alliances. Right. J.D. Vance's speech in Munich, the security conference, and talking down and past our allies, and as you said, the ambush in the Oval with Zelensky and the messages that have been sent.