Gavin Newsom

When he resigns, I think he was tacitly saying, even when he resigned the military commission, I am a citizen.

And then at the presidency, I'm a citizen.

Adams wanted him to take a kind of royal or princely title.

He goes, no, president, it's okay for me.

Right.

And so I'm sorry, I interrupted you.

But I think that's really at the heart of it, that this building block is not the top.

It's the bottom.

Or the bottom is the top, the individual agency of each human being.

And the story of us has been the expansion of what was a very limited phrase, all men are created equal, all white men of property free of debt.

We don't mean that anymore.

And the more we grow and the more we expand it, the richer we become.

And that's the story of us.

No them involved, but of us.

The no kings rallies, the sense... I mean, I'm starting to feel more optimistic listening to you about this moment, this sort of this energy, this percolation, this notion that the top is the bottom, this notion that we... This foundational...

principles that have allowed us to endure and endure these moments.

And the fact that these moments are hardly unique in our history and the fact that we've been able to persevere.

I mean, are you feeling more or less optimistic in that context?

I know it's the road question you get every interview.

So in the context of this moment in particular, and I mean, quite literally, perhaps this moment.