Gavin Newsom

Yeah, so that's exactly right.

And it still remains the same.

It's still PBS is the broadcast platform is great.

Only this time, the American Revolution, you know, six parts, 12 hours comes out in mid-November last year.

And by the end of the year, we've accumulated 18 million viewers in traditional broadcast, which is pretty damn good.

But we've hit...

for the first time in PBS's history, the top 10 of streaming.

And for me, this Luddite, they've got a metric, which is at that moment, at the end of November, 565 million minutes of streaming.

So, you know, my kids can do the divide by 720 minutes that 12 hours is.

But now it's well over 4 billion.

And that's...

a big deal and it was a big deal that we broke the top 10 but it's an even bigger deal that we now have something in which we're told that you know conservatives only like yellowstone as if that's a simplistic story and it's not and that you know liberals only like this and it's it's not true the the novelist richard powers said something that i i've been quoting for years now he said the best arguments in the world and that's all we do is argue

won't change a single person's point of view.

The only thing that can do that is a good story.

Because in a computer world where everything's a one or a zero, in a media culture where everything's red state or blue state, young or old, black or white, gay or straight, rich or poor, north or south, east or west, all the dialectics that we are preoccupied with, which don't actually exist,

Um, there's no room for the complexity that we extend to the people we love, to the friends that we have, to the colleagues that we work with, to the understanding that the struggles are within us, that, you know, we say there are no, we lament that there are no heroes today, Governor, you know, and, and.

And if you go back and say, well, where does the notion of heroism come from?

It comes from the Greeks, and they endowed their gods with these examples for us mortals to study.

And are those gods perfect?

No.