Gemma Speck

when they resist overwork, when they remember their limits.

Before we were talking about this, expectations around productivity are deeply unequal.

When somebody who's rich and famous works really hard, we're like hustler.

so good like they're so motivated when somebody who's poor works really hard it's like what do you why are you neglecting your children like what is wrong with you some people are praised for rest and and for having boundaries others are punished for the same behaviors the myth of laziness that i want to finish on is basically like this is a tool to make people feel bad

in order to reward others and in order to work harder for others.

When you separate yourself from those narratives, when you realize laziness doesn't exist, that's just a moral judgment, you get to live life the way it was really intended.

Honoring the winters, honoring the downtimes, doing what is needed and not

excess stuff that isn't.

And in that way, you really experience human productivity in a much more nourishing way, in a way that is sustainable.

Sure, you might have less output.

Sure, you might lose the competitive edge.

But when you shift into this mindset, the things that you were competing for, you don't really care anymore because you realize if I had to give up all that makes me human for this and all that was enjoyable to have this

What's the point?

I work so hard so I can have an enjoyable life, but if I didn't work hard right now, I'd have an enjoyable life anyways.

That's really the thing I want to end on.

That's what I'm hoping you take away from this episode.

The guilt you feel may not feel optional right now, but it is entirely socially conditioned.

You have no reason to feel guilty for rest.

Your ancestors didn't feel guilty for us because they knew it was necessary.

It doesn't make you a bad person.