Gene Simmons

I don't know.

It just is...

what it was i'd start playing a bass line at what's going on say you know that's kind of catchy because it goes over and over let's put the guitar do that and stop playing chords and just do that stuff and that's where the rip but we also had harmonies on top of that look we didn't know anything we were just making it up but trouble in paradise 79 disco is full blown right stones

ron stewart everybody's doing and it's huge everybody's doing it and i'm going to studio 54 and all the stars are there and all that stuff and we bring out i was made for loving you and it just massive immediately and the core fans are upset except for the fact that the ticket sales

You're still selling tickets.

Tons.

Making more money and the toys, the younger fans came in because all of a sudden Mom likes the song and the kids liked it.

So we were selling and our Kiss Meets the Phantom movie, excuse me, came out.

So we were talking about cartoons and theme parks and all this stuff getting bigger and bigger.

But clearly by the early 80s, disco was going into the shadows.

And there was punk coming up.

And I really liked the Pistols and the Clash and all that.

But you can't do... They already exist.

You can't just go... You know what?

Maybe we could nudge our way there.

Grunge came out.

We even toyed around with Carnival of Souls with a kind of a...

The makeup is off.

Let's take the makeup off and see what that's... So as soon as you start to bend over for the soap, it's not long before you become somebody's bitch.

And I don't want to use creative language here, but you lose yourself.