Gene Simmons

And you do a solo based on the riff.

You say, ah, okay.

And he talked like that.

And we're going, wow, he's a weird guy.

He's got one orange sneaker, one red sneaker.

just, you know, pigeon-toed and all, oh boy, this guy's going to be, and then he dug in, and his head, you know, like he's on stage, just that rubbery thing, and Paul and I looked at each other, wow,

and you don't know what you're looking for but you certainly know when you hear it and see it and it immediately said this weird guy rubbery thing on drums that we couldn't get to focus on that's the bridge feel you're playing in the chorus and this other guy was you know and uh

There you are.

It just kind of happened.

You can't... We didn't have a manager.

We didn't have a... There was no Don Kirshner saying, here's the monkeys and... Yeah.

Well, I'll tell you a big bit of info is Ace was so serious about his guitar playing.

The solos is he would go home and learn...

And he would work out the guitar solos so that when he would play live or in the studio, they were parts.

Just like... He played the same thing.

He would play note for note with the right vibrato and everything.

That's when he was committed to it.

And that's one of the things live fans kept pointing to.

Wow, it sounds just like... You bet it is.

Because he cared enough to learn his own solos.