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George Bonaci

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

I think if you're able to do some sort of back channel and some sort of test in that first interview, that is going to be like the most valuable, highest signal thing you can do.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

I, both, so exactly both. If you're like a series A startup, it's probably like finding the best talent and hiring, convincing the best talent to join your company is generally gonna be really hard. I assume most people have probably never heard of most series A startups.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

I, both, so exactly both. If you're like a series A startup, it's probably like finding the best talent and hiring, convincing the best talent to join your company is generally gonna be really hard. I assume most people have probably never heard of most series A startups.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

I, both, so exactly both. If you're like a series A startup, it's probably like finding the best talent and hiring, convincing the best talent to join your company is generally gonna be really hard. I assume most people have probably never heard of most series A startups.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And in that case, yeah, the best folks you're gonna be able to hire are going to be like referrals, warm intros, that sort of thing. So getting some sort of back channel information from the person that is hopefully connecting you is I think like actually the first step of the interview process. I would argue the second should be some sort of case study or some sort of take home test.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And in that case, yeah, the best folks you're gonna be able to hire are going to be like referrals, warm intros, that sort of thing. So getting some sort of back channel information from the person that is hopefully connecting you is I think like actually the first step of the interview process. I would argue the second should be some sort of case study or some sort of take home test.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And in that case, yeah, the best folks you're gonna be able to hire are going to be like referrals, warm intros, that sort of thing. So getting some sort of back channel information from the person that is hopefully connecting you is I think like actually the first step of the interview process. I would argue the second should be some sort of case study or some sort of take home test.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

You can do the case study live in the conversation with them just to see how they think about things. But I don't think it would be a bad idea to go from warm conversation, get to know you, kind of selling you on the opportunity in the business straight to a take-home test. So the first call should probably be about selling.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

You can do the case study live in the conversation with them just to see how they think about things. But I don't think it would be a bad idea to go from warm conversation, get to know you, kind of selling you on the opportunity in the business straight to a take-home test. So the first call should probably be about selling.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

You can do the case study live in the conversation with them just to see how they think about things. But I don't think it would be a bad idea to go from warm conversation, get to know you, kind of selling you on the opportunity in the business straight to a take-home test. So the first call should probably be about selling.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And hopefully you're selling based on the referral that you just got, the very strong referral you just got. And then the second stage would be, okay, let's assess.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And hopefully you're selling based on the referral that you just got, the very strong referral you just got. And then the second stage would be, okay, let's assess.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And hopefully you're selling based on the referral that you just got, the very strong referral you just got. And then the second stage would be, okay, let's assess.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

Yes, make it as real as possible and make it quantitative. And actually, maybe the third thing I'd say is understand what good looks like before you send the test out. So a great example is I like to just take a Salesforce dump or a dump of data and be like, hey, what's the best campaign? What worked best here? What were the best leads? Whatever it might be.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

Yes, make it as real as possible and make it quantitative. And actually, maybe the third thing I'd say is understand what good looks like before you send the test out. So a great example is I like to just take a Salesforce dump or a dump of data and be like, hey, what's the best campaign? What worked best here? What were the best leads? Whatever it might be.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

Yes, make it as real as possible and make it quantitative. And actually, maybe the third thing I'd say is understand what good looks like before you send the test out. So a great example is I like to just take a Salesforce dump or a dump of data and be like, hey, what's the best campaign? What worked best here? What were the best leads? Whatever it might be.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And if it's real world data, it's going to be really messy. Like there's going to be a bunch of tricks they have to catch. There's going to be a bunch of mistakes they have to figure out. Duplicate leads or the dates don't align or missing data or whatever it might be. So I think like that itself is like, can they work with real world data is I think a really interesting question to answer.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And if it's real world data, it's going to be really messy. Like there's going to be a bunch of tricks they have to catch. There's going to be a bunch of mistakes they have to figure out. Duplicate leads or the dates don't align or missing data or whatever it might be. So I think like that itself is like, can they work with real world data is I think a really interesting question to answer.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And if it's real world data, it's going to be really messy. Like there's going to be a bunch of tricks they have to catch. There's going to be a bunch of mistakes they have to figure out. Duplicate leads or the dates don't align or missing data or whatever it might be. So I think like that itself is like, can they work with real world data is I think a really interesting question to answer.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20Growth: Inside Ramp's Growth Engine: How Ramp Became the Fastest Growing SaaS Company Ever | What Worked & What Did Not Work | How to Hire for Growth | How to Find Alpha in Channels Where No One Else Can with George Bonaci

And then the other is like, how much of this did they think through? What was their thought process? How quickly were they able to adapt? How quickly were they able even to do the tests? Did they ask questions about it? All of those, I think, are signals before you even see the output to understand, are they at least thinking about things in the right way? But the real world is messy.