George Camel

So, I mean, I just commend you for that.

I know that was 12 years ago, but that's incredible.

Absolutely incredible.

Yeah, George, when we, you know, think about part of the baby steps and what she said, I loved because yeah, it's baby step, you know, they're past baby step two.

They're moving on for that fully funded emergency fund and so forth.

And there is something so freeing from the sense of,

Yes, the dollars and cents are there, right?

We're being wise with our actual tactical money.

That's very important.

But it's so much bigger than that.

It is like the place where money sits in our lives, the value of which we give it.

And when you are out of debt, you have that emergency fund.

You don't have to be obsessed with it.

You don't have to stress about it because you're setting yourself up so well.

And what that speaks to your kids and a household is everything.

To me, that's part of changing the family tree.

It's not just...

from a monetary standpoint, but from an emotional standpoint, that money doesn't have to be a stress point in our lives because we have control over it.

Totally.

Yeah.