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George Church

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

This is not like COVID-19 where we actually, millions of people were dying if we delayed the science.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

This is something where if there ever is a crisis, it's because we created it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It's not because we're trying to solve it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And so I think we need to go very slowly on AGI and ASI and double down on

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

slightly narrower scientific goals.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

And even that, we need to be very cautious about.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

We need to have kind of an international consensus on what constitutes safe AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I think we'd slow it down.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I think

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I think it would eliminate it because the first thing it would conclude is biology is not relevant to me because I'm not made out of biology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I don't think we have anything close to the assurance that we need that that would be safe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But let's put safety aside for a moment.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

I think it's not only hard to calculate the bads, it's hard to calculate the goods.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

So I think it could be a complete game changer.

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

But on the other hand,

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

It's like if we said we could get instantaneous transport all over the earth, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Well, we could say, yes, that could be a game changer, but do we really need it, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Is that really important?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

Maybe it would be more interesting to just have Zoom calls and they're better, you know, or just learn how to get everything we want in our kitchen and we don't need to travel anymore, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
George Church โ€” A Billion Years of Evolution in a Single Afternoon

So, you know, be careful what you ask for, right?