George Kamide

Yes, gesticulate wildly until you get through it. Exactly.

Yes, gesticulate wildly until you get through it. Exactly.

Love it.

Love it.

I'm going to give this gaijin the largest pile of wasabi I can muster.

I'm going to give this gaijin the largest pile of wasabi I can muster.

George Kamidi. I am head of community and events at the CISO Society, co-founder, executive director of Mind Over Cyber, which is a nonprofit and co-host of the podcast Fair Knuckles and Brass Tacks, with another George who is a CISO. And... Yeah, lucked into security by way of many side doors. And I also had, we discovered a food background.

George Kamidi. I am head of community and events at the CISO Society, co-founder, executive director of Mind Over Cyber, which is a nonprofit and co-host of the podcast Fair Knuckles and Brass Tacks, with another George who is a CISO. And... Yeah, lucked into security by way of many side doors. And I also had, we discovered a food background.

I'd written my undergraduate thesis on deforestation in the Amazon frontier, which was the result of large scale soy farming. And yeah, I think when I entered undergrad, I would not have guessed that I would be writing about like industrial agriculture.

I'd written my undergraduate thesis on deforestation in the Amazon frontier, which was the result of large scale soy farming. And yeah, I think when I entered undergrad, I would not have guessed that I would be writing about like industrial agriculture.

I didn't really have a lot of connection to that naturally, and I didn't really know a lot about it, but I was an anthropology major and I was interested in how I could get back to Brazil. And one of my professors directed me toward this research topic. And it was interesting because from an anthropological perspective, what you're trying to do is learn how different groups see land.

I didn't really have a lot of connection to that naturally, and I didn't really know a lot about it, but I was an anthropology major and I was interested in how I could get back to Brazil. And one of my professors directed me toward this research topic. And it was interesting because from an anthropological perspective, what you're trying to do is learn how different groups see land.

I think the debate is obscured like Oh, it's deforestation. But producers, that's what they call themselves instead of farmers. You know, if they say produce, that's the universe they see and measure everything in. So it's about yield. And it was just like a very interesting way to explore how people are thinking about things. And then I had been also in a number of environmental studies classes.

I think the debate is obscured like Oh, it's deforestation. But producers, that's what they call themselves instead of farmers. You know, if they say produce, that's the universe they see and measure everything in. So it's about yield. And it was just like a very interesting way to explore how people are thinking about things. And then I had been also in a number of environmental studies classes.

And that's when I think I really got enamored with the complexity and the precarity of the food supply. And I was like, oh, this is very different than what I thought, which I think like most people, my exposure to the food supply was the grocery store.

And that's when I think I really got enamored with the complexity and the precarity of the food supply. And I was like, oh, this is very different than what I thought, which I think like most people, my exposure to the food supply was the grocery store.

And, you know, my dad had an extensive garden, so I wasn't so unaware that like carrots come from the ground or that stuff has to get dirty and then get washed. But I just didn't see all of the systems. I didn't see it as like a linkage of many chains and things. You know, should one go down, that's a big deal. And then when I was in Brazil, I mean, this was circa 2004.

And, you know, my dad had an extensive garden, so I wasn't so unaware that like carrots come from the ground or that stuff has to get dirty and then get washed. But I just didn't see all of the systems. I didn't see it as like a linkage of many chains and things. You know, should one go down, that's a big deal. And then when I was in Brazil, I mean, this was circa 2004.

And even then, we're talking about farms, the likes of which most Americans have never seen. Yep. In terms of technological advance and size. So Brazil is measuring farms in hectares. I saw farms hundreds of thousands of acres, like hundreds. As far as you can see in any direction toward the horizon, a crop, cotton, soy, whatever. And then they rotate. But monoculture. Yep.

And even then, we're talking about farms, the likes of which most Americans have never seen. Yep. In terms of technological advance and size. So Brazil is measuring farms in hectares. I saw farms hundreds of thousands of acres, like hundreds. As far as you can see in any direction toward the horizon, a crop, cotton, soy, whatever. And then they rotate. But monoculture. Yep.