George Kamide

And so that's often why bad things have to happen before. And then everyone's like, Why? You know, like when the boat slammed into the pylon in Baltimore Harbor and just like took out a bridge instantly. You know, then there are all these articles about like those weren't made to withstand container ships of that size. It's like, oh, right.

And so that's often why bad things have to happen before. And then everyone's like, Why? You know, like when the boat slammed into the pylon in Baltimore Harbor and just like took out a bridge instantly. You know, then there are all these articles about like those weren't made to withstand container ships of that size. It's like, oh, right.

Because when the bridge was built, we weren't shipping like that. And I'm sure somebody at some point said, hey, if we're going to renovate the harbor equipment to accept boats of this size, somebody probably raised a red flag. Like, you know, structurally, a lot of other things aren't made for this, but really hard to plan for that until it happens.

Because when the bridge was built, we weren't shipping like that. And I'm sure somebody at some point said, hey, if we're going to renovate the harbor equipment to accept boats of this size, somebody probably raised a red flag. Like, you know, structurally, a lot of other things aren't made for this, but really hard to plan for that until it happens.

And now everyone's like, it's so easy to ask in retrospect, well, why hadn't it been fortified for whatever? I mean, how many times have we learned this with like earthquake architecture, right? It took a lot of people getting hurt.

And now everyone's like, it's so easy to ask in retrospect, well, why hadn't it been fortified for whatever? I mean, how many times have we learned this with like earthquake architecture, right? It took a lot of people getting hurt.

The other thing is the, basically the social media brain. You know, we've been living with the last decade of being essentially rewired in our social behaviors to weigh in on everything. I personally find maybe one of the more liberating passages of Marcus Aurelius' meditations is simply the passage, you do not need to have an opinion.

The other thing is the, basically the social media brain. You know, we've been living with the last decade of being essentially rewired in our social behaviors to weigh in on everything. I personally find maybe one of the more liberating passages of Marcus Aurelius' meditations is simply the passage, you do not need to have an opinion.

That you is Marcus Aurelius talking to himself, emperor of Rome, arguably most powerful person on the planet at the time. But that is very liberating. You see stuff here like, I don't really need to weigh in there, but there's this reflex to do that. So this is, I guess, where I try to apply my wares. I'm not a technical operator, but I do understand culture.

That you is Marcus Aurelius talking to himself, emperor of Rome, arguably most powerful person on the planet at the time. But that is very liberating. You see stuff here like, I don't really need to weigh in there, but there's this reflex to do that. So this is, I guess, where I try to apply my wares. I'm not a technical operator, but I do understand culture.

And I think it's something that gets not enough attention because it's the mode through which we operate. So cybersecurity as an industry has a culture. Food safety has its own culture. And we're sort of operating between these layers at all times, sort of toggling between them. That's just how human society is constructed. But I do think being aware of that is very helpful.

And I think it's something that gets not enough attention because it's the mode through which we operate. So cybersecurity as an industry has a culture. Food safety has its own culture. And we're sort of operating between these layers at all times, sort of toggling between them. That's just how human society is constructed. But I do think being aware of that is very helpful.

You know, I think we would probably not have CISA were it not for Homeland Security. We would not have Homeland Security were it not for 9-11, right? So we had to kind of go through the disaster to think of new systems and ways to mitigate disaster. So I don't know what I'm trying to say, Kristen.

You know, I think we would probably not have CISA were it not for Homeland Security. We would not have Homeland Security were it not for 9-11, right? So we had to kind of go through the disaster to think of new systems and ways to mitigate disaster. So I don't know what I'm trying to say, Kristen.

I'm trying not to say that it's going to take certain disaster for it to happen, but it might take a different reframing. To be able to like either tell it through a story that's relatable.

I'm trying not to say that it's going to take certain disaster for it to happen, but it might take a different reframing. To be able to like either tell it through a story that's relatable.

There's something that has to like pierce the cultural veil to make people think through these complex systems because just sort of screaming gets you labeled as like Chicken Little because it's just not evident to us. So it doesn't hit the radar.

There's something that has to like pierce the cultural veil to make people think through these complex systems because just sort of screaming gets you labeled as like Chicken Little because it's just not evident to us. So it doesn't hit the radar.

This is whatever, moving on. Because it's also like, let's be honest about how complex these systems are. Like if you're like, it's cool. I got it unlocked. I did a tabletop exercise. Like it's fine. Like the thing that you're dealing with is insane. It is, I'm going to word this carefully. It's the most complicated system in history to date.

This is whatever, moving on. Because it's also like, let's be honest about how complex these systems are. Like if you're like, it's cool. I got it unlocked. I did a tabletop exercise. Like it's fine. Like the thing that you're dealing with is insane. It is, I'm going to word this carefully. It's the most complicated system in history to date.