George Knapp

conquered the world with just one of them if we had it.

But take us back to Tic Tac.

What you've learned then, what you've learned since, was that ours or was it somebody else's?

And I ask in the context of Arrow, which the last time we talked at a conversation here, you basically agreed with us that it looks like a counterintelligence operation, which, of course, Arrow is like the Roach Motel, the old ads for the Roach Motel.

Roaches go in, they never come out.

Witnesses go in, testimony goes in, nothing comes out.

Arrow has yet to formally dismiss, explain, discourage interest in the Tic Tac.

Is Tic Tac still legit?

Is it ours?

Do we have anything like it?

And if we did, why the hell don't we use it?

Come in handy.

You have a couple of sections in this new book about the Russian files, the Thread-3 files, and where it led.

Can you give us a summary of what you learned from those, what was learned, and the significant conclusions that you could draw from the documents that came back from the USSR, former USSR?

Of course, that's 30 years difference, though.

Both companies were pursuing the same thing.

They just had it started 30 years earlier.

Well, I'll ask you this just as a guess, theoretical question.

You know, our mutual friend and colleague, Colm Kelleher, has stated publicly that he suspected that whatever the intelligence was operating at Skinwalker Ranch and then in the Uintah Basin might be a machine intelligence.

And it makes me wonder if you're not stating what, who they are, where they're from.