George Knapp

You did experiments attempting communication with whatever it is.

How did they work out?

Did you find anything substantive?

And in general, would you say that communication is possible with whatever it is, whoever they are?

I'm handing it over to George.

I'm doing my best.

I'd like to return to sort of the origins of OSAP.

You know, you've covered different threads through the four books.

But, you know, the first, very first incident case investigated by OSAP was Tic Tac.

Maybe the most consequential UFO series of events ever, given...

The effects of when it came out.

And your colleague Jay Stratton did the first form of the investigation, put together a report.

We're now 22 years later.

And, you know, the implication keeps leaking out from we think we know who.

Oh, yeah, that's one of ours.

We were just testing it and seeing how the Navy would react, which seems preposterous.

But if that's one of ours, something we built, we haven't seen it yet.

We haven't seen it deployed.

We know that the capabilities of that weapon system would be revolutionary, change the world.

Maybe you could...