George Parker

You know, it was a cry for help, really, that we've tried everything else, maybe this will do it.

But reform now, they don't talk about Brexit, of course, because it's deemed to be by many people a complete failure.

They're not talking about that now, but they are talking about the fact that people have been let down.

Immigration, as you say, is something they used as an example of what they regard to be broken Britain.

But yeah, I mean, the results were extremely good for Farage.

He claims that he's cleared Beecher's Brook and he could now win the Grand National, by which he means the general election in 2029.

But the things people complain about, I mean, besides local facilities, libraries, street cleaning, garbage, everything like that, not being as it used to be an efficient service.

But the NHS is also one of those topics.

And the NHS was populated by many people who came from outside Britain to keep it going.

You have Brexit and a lot of people from continental Europe said, not staying here, might never get tenure, might never get the right to live freely here.

I'm off.

So, I mean, joined up thinking is something that you hope people will have, but that's not necessarily so.

Well, I think you've made the point very well.

I mean, the Financial Times was no enthusiast for Brexit, as you know.

And I mean, not just the fact that what are you going to do when people go home and you've got no one to work in the hospitals, but how do you think it's going to help your economy by erecting trade barriers?

How can you be a party which says we want free trade and then put up huge trade barriers to your nearest and most valuable trading partners?

I mean, the whole Brexit premise was nonsensical, to be honest.

But as you say, people weren't doing very much joined up thinking and probably aren't now.

Now, finally, George, I should ask you about Farage.

When he came out, where was it?