George Saunders

I guess, go on autopilot.

You know, if you say ambition is it, I'm always going to be ambitious.

That's nice because you don't have to worry anymore.

But it's dangerous because now you're on autopilot and you just become that guy, you know.

One, two, or three.

One, please.

Oh, God, yeah.

I longed to write the book I was meant to write, which I feel like I haven't done yet.

Wow.

I'm going to, but I haven't figured.

But mostly, I think I – I mean, this is kind of a cheesy answer, but I've had moments in my life, sometimes through meditation, sometimes just through good fortune, of feeling myself recede.

You know, in a really pleasant way.

Those moments in the church when the mind would go quiet, that happened.

And I really long for that.

And, you know, that feeling of like, it's really in the Catholic Church, Jesus say, the masses ended, all go in peace.

We must diminish and Christ increase.

And I think with that feeling of having your ego and your active mind be quiet, I would like to get there sooner rather than later.

Yeah.

So I think longing applies to that, yeah.

It's kind of a sugar buzz and like a sugar buzz.