George Saunders

Then I'd like to hear your, your description of, of what will Jill elevations and how Jill refers to this, uh, luminous event that she had and her death where she understands people as, as inevitable occurrences.

But that is another way.

I think I haven't really thought through this, but of, of saying grace, um,

That everything is okay.

That ultimately you're not to blame and you're not to praise.

You're just an embodiment of God's will.

Something like that, you know.

I'm not sure.

Because if you think of, now this is getting a little deep, but I think if you say...

That's my hope.

Yeah, yeah.

Here's a question.

Have you ever been comforted by a falsehood?

Yes.

Which one?

Because you're working on it together.

In a sense, what you're saying is, I will be well.

And I think that that's the form of you extending grace to him, which isn't exactly truthful.

The spell isn't exactly truthful, but the substrate or the sort of foundation of the spell is true.

There is, but where she gets into trouble, and again, I discovered this about halfway through.