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George Saunders

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2546 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You know, for a person to write a book that's powerful, they have to take everything that they have.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And even the stuff that they've habitually labeled as negative,

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

can be turned.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So anger, well, really, in some situations, anger is just an appropriate reaction to injustice or to disalignment and misalignment.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

But for me, writing, that's what you're doing in every second.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You're taking a sentence that's a little messed up and you're putting it on the table and going, oh, okay, let's make that more specific.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Let's just turn it a little bit.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And suddenly it pops into something that's more truthful.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I think it's the way they are.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

The way?

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I don't know.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I don't know enough about it.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

It's the way things are.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

But you can be out of alignment with the way things are.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Of course.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Yeah, that's sin, as we have said.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Yes.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Truth just means, from my point of view, what's happening right now.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

But also with a dose of skepticism about the way my mind answered that question.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I read a beautiful quote by Trungpa Rinpoche.