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George Saunders

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2546 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

He said, everything that you feel and enjoy and hate and crave, he said, it's all memory.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So a certain loose relation to appearances that says this is all a dream or it's all a form of memory that's happening.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So let's not get too attached to the way things appear.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And in our actions, let's factor that in.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So truth is just, well, let's say what's not truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

What's not truth is your mind stream in a given situation.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You walk into a party and you feel judged.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You feel judged.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Are people actually judging you?

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Maybe.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Now you go into the party and you can sort of see, you know, oh, they're... Honestly, man, nowadays, if you're me, they kind of are.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Okay.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

But, I mean, that truth is not... I don't think it's anything lofty, but I think it's just saying in a given moment...

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Can I sort through the various scale models that my mind is presenting to a quieter place?

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And in the quieter place, you're processing more data.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So if you go to that party and your mind is quiet and you see somebody smiling at you, you go, oh, okay, noted.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Or see somebody giving the side eye, you just note it more honestly.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So I think truth is something you can, it's very simple.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

It's not, and again, for me to go local in a book is,

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And this is weird, and I can't really defend this.