Georgie Crawford

Mm-hmm.

So in the early morning after the gathering, there were calls between the homeowner, Brian Albert, and ATF agent Brian Higgins.

So one call.

OK, so we have one call at 2.22 a.m.

Another call at 2.26 a.m.

The defence is like, why are you calling each other so much?

Have you just been together at,

You know, what was the need?

to call each other.

Now, the calls were connected, but they were extremely brief.

Like one or two sentences, you know, would have been exchanged in the times that the call went on for.

Higgins' phone showed an incoming call from Brian Albert, the homeowner.

And Albert, Brian Albert says, oh, he rolled over on his phone in the middle of the night and rang Brian Higgins with his butt.

Yeah.

Now, the defence wasn't trying to prove that a butt dial means murder, but they were trying to prove...

The witness explanations for these calls don't make sense.

So what were you actually talking about?

Did you actually butt dial?

And if you were talking to each other, what were you talking about?

And so go and look at it on YouTube, especially this bit, because Karen Reid's team just do a brilliant job.