Gerald Butts

You've got a person who didn't really know a lot of these people when he became their leader and vice versa is also the case.

I don't agree with those who say that Mark Carney hasn't been as advertised.

And you hear this complaint on the

uh mostly on the left i think mark carney is exactly as advertised i think this is who we built a campaign around a year and a half ago this is the core promise that he made that it was going to be a change in policy direction style and substance from the trudeau years and that's exactly what people are getting across a broad variety of fronts from a policy perspective

He's probably done stuff that has surprised people who voted for him, but that's always the case.

And in his case, he doesn't have a long track record on a lot of the issues that were cataloged in these stories.

So his caucus is probably learning how he feels about them for the first time.

Overall, I don't I also don't agree with people who are like, yeah, he got elected so he could kick the crap out of liberals.

That's not what happened here.

And you're probably terminally online if you think that that's germane to the discussion.

I think he's got to make sure over time that he keeps his team together because as we've seen and.

prime ministers, first ministers of all kind learn at their peril that if they don't keep their team together, they don't keep their job.

And I don't think we're anywhere near that with Mark Carney.

I think the last dynamic I'll describe, which again, I think has happened in the past, is

Because he has a majority, the media has decided to be the opposition, right?

I think a lot of people have written off Pierre Poiliev as leader of the opposition.

I'm not one of those people, as you know, but I think a lot of people have written him off and the media has decided it's their time to not vote.

And journalists are proud people, as you know, better than anybody, Peter, and they don't like being shepherded into consensus opinion.

And I think what you're seeing here is some of the most senior journalists on Parliament Hill saying we're not going to roll over for this government.

Yeah, I agree with all that.