Gerald Butts

And in this whole enterprise for certainly the first half of last year, it's impossible to describe, guys, the velocity at which this thing was traveling in terms of normal politics.

And I think as a consequence, he just hasn't had a chance to take a breath.

I mean, he, I think, enjoys moving at this speed.

The system does not enjoy moving at this speed.

And it's been...

on its rails for a while.

And I think getting a chance to take a step back, point out to his team, make whatever adjustments he needs to make to his agenda and describe clearly what he wants to accomplish most importantly to the public over the next three to six months is,

And then drive the system hard toward achieving those things.

He'll get what you usually get as a leader going into a campaign before a campaign, but that he circumstances robbed him of the benefit of having that preparatory time.

And now almost miraculously, he's probably going to get it while prime minister.

That's a good question.

I think that I'm glad you picked up on that, Peter, and I hope other people did, because I think that this has been like all successful strategies.

I think Mark Cardenas is relatively simple and it's we need a bigger tent, both within the liberal

Party and within the Parliament of Canada so that we can get through the crisis that the United States has visited upon us together.

That's a strategy, right?

And the people who are in the weeds picking on what one floor crosser or another may have said on their social media six months ago or

can the Liberal Party sustain a rightward tilt here or a more centrist positioning there or whatever your pet issue is, are missing the point.

And I think he has very deep conviction that he needs to fashion a broader coalition to keep the country together through this challenge we're facing on an indeterminate amount of time.

So I think what he's trying to do is to fashion a national unity government under the aegis of the Liberal Party of Canada, which, you know, if you listen to his speech yesterday, it was very much about the country.

It wasn't it was a speech to liberals about what he's trying to do with the party and why.