Gerald Butts

And sorry, sorry, James, go ahead.

Yeah.

And if I could just follow up on that, Peter, you can always tell what politicians really think by what they repeatedly say.

Right.

I know that's very obvious, but it's amazing to me how many people overlook this.

So the prime minister had a friend of his of 30, 40 years write him this note after he won the election.

And he quoted it yesterday in the speech and he's quoted it publicly.

since the election.

And this man, Bob Zettel is his name, he wrote the prime minister saying, look, everybody's focused, I'm paraphrasing, everybody's focused on the immediate issue here, the threat of the Trump tariffs, which is the way it was described at the time.

But the real issue is what has always been the issue in Canada, and that is how do we foster a sense of national cohesion

uh, and stick together in the public interest and keep that in mind.

And I think that that encapsulated, uh, in a really, uh, compelling way for the prime minister and for a lot of the people around him, what the main challenges facing the country right now, it's sure.

Donald Trump, sure.

Tariffs, sure.

Whatever, uh, um, the world, uh, the, the,

global multilateral rules based order crumbling like all of this stuff is really important and it has to be treated as a specific issue or set of issues in its own right but let's remember who we are here and where we get into difficulty is when we start shooting at each other as Canadians and I think he's trying

his level best to keep that from happening.

He's asking liberals to take water in their wine on a bunch of different fronts to welcome people into the party who probably wouldn't have felt welcome in the party a couple of years ago.

And he sees all of that as in service of a broader national cause.

And I know that sounds really obvious and straightforward, but it's amazing how little