Gerard Howlin

You're trying to save.

You go to the bank to try and get a mortgage and they're like, oh, OK, you're paying huge rent.

Well, we'll take that as you could have been saving that money.

And I'm like, but I'm not saving that money.

And it's gone.

And to go on those points, I suppose, particularly I was in the UK this week with the president.

Catherine Connolly was doing her first official visit to the UK.

Official, not a state.

Yeah, not a state visit.

No, no worries.

Don't worry.

Yeah, absolutely not a state visit.

There's far more pomp and ceremony associated with a state visit, which I would love to cover as well.

It was an official visit.

And, you know, so and I think there's actually a piece in the Sunday Independent from Eilidh O'Hanlon about, you know, that it was quite boring.

And I think she said, actually, I'd rather you could stay at home defleeing the cat.

And I said, that's mean on the cat.

I would only love to spend an evening with my cat.

But the, yeah, Catherine Connolly did make a couple of speeches while she was there and a lot of them were kind of repeating the same thing.

But one thing that she touched on that I thought was interesting and I think it's really important for us to remember this when we talk about immigration and we talk about, you know, those people being in our community now is that Irish people for years went away and she talked specifically about the reports that were done, I think it was in the 90s or the late 80s into the Irish diaspora in London and how the Irish diaspora in London had a, had a,