Gerard Whateley

Yeah.

In a short period of time.

There definitely is.

And what, what are they going to do and how are they going to do it?

So if you add two, like their dream world, add two established pieces and get two good draft picks.

I think their best result's still 9-10, isn't it?

But they do have this, we spoke about this last week, they've got a five-way block.

So you can't trade to get your pieces, but there's enough free agents in the market.

Are we going to amount to anything?

And if you use your heft as Collingwood and then get two really good draft picks in the door.

Ping off five in a row and put yourself right in the wildcard window?

Yeah.

I don't think they're much better than they look, but I agree with you is they're getting the maximum.

Where I think they're right, they shouldn't be giving up on their list.

Yeah.

He is coaching really well and has done all year.

The idea of giving up and going to the bottom, no, leave me out of that.

And that's why the interest is in what comes next.

So you have to be really strategic around that.

That's why the debate is so live and so real.