Giannis Pappas

When we think about, like, human ingenuity, oh, God, we're missing so much of, like, they didn't leave, like, here's a book on how we did it.

This is where we got the rocks.

This is how we cut them.

This is the best way to move them.

If you move them this way, they'll fall on you and you'll kill a few guys.

You know, this is what we figured out over time.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's crazy to think about.

And I agree with you.

I think it was drugs that opened people's minds up to think about things.

Yeah, it gave them a completely different perspective.

Carl Sagan once said that about marijuana.

I'm paraphrasing him, but essentially he was saying that it offers you a perspective that's not available without the drug.

Yeah.

That's why I think mushrooms are getting popular for depression, right?

It sort of takes you off those grooves that are created by the neuro connections.

Yeah.

Just gives you a new perspective.

I wonder how much, I mean, there's certainly different kinds of depression.

There's depression that's clearly something wrong chemically with some people.