Gilbert Cruz

their sort of backstory but them playing themselves and sort of presenting their their story to a new audience for me like it worked yeah um you also have something that is uh for obvious reasons pretty rare but uh a relative of the person playing uh one of the people most famously in the past few years oh o'shea jackson um playing his father in the movie straight out of compton if

Yeah.

We've really focused on rock biopics, country biopics.

Do you think that there is a reason that more hip-hop biopics are not

All right, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about some biopics that really mess with the form.

We'll be right back.

All right.

I'd love to get into a few biopics that are unexpected, that are not what we have been talking about, which is the sort of cradle to grave depiction of a musician's life.

I would love to start with one that I saw at this point so many years ago.

It is Superstar, The Karen Carpenter Story, which was directed by Todd Haynes.

And this tells the story of Karen Carpenter essentially through Barbies.

Like, it's just a bunch of Barbies showing how difficult her life was, how she dealt with... Incredible movie.

I remember pirating this as a younger person.

Yeah, exactly.

It is how she dealt with anorexia and other issues.

And it was a movie that the Carpenter estate, of course...

was not interested in approving because of how negatively it depicted all the people around her.

As a result, it uses all the Carpenter's music, but it is not something you could really legally watch.

But it was a fascinating, certainly for me as a, I don't know, a 19-year-old college student to think that there are

You know, after having seen La Bamba and Selena when I was growing up and movies that were very stereotypical biopics that you could actually just be completely wild and do something like this.