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Giles Milton

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Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Quite revolting.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Now, I have to say that the point of this, this is not just gratuitous to talk about this violence, the point of it is that this caused an absolute

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

absolute outrage when it reached England.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And in fact, John Dryden, who obviously famous poet, one of his more famous pieces was a play called The Massacre of Amboina, which really struck a chord with the English public at the time.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And this gave rise to huge anti-Dutch sentiment in England.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Well, the question is, what can they actually do?

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Because the Dutch now have complete control of the Bander Islands.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Short of sending an absolutely enormous armada out to the Spiceries, to the Spice Islands, the English can't really get back their beloved run island.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And as Willie will be able to tell the next chapter of the story,

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

All attentions now begin to turn towards India.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

India becomes the great goal of the East India Company.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

By default only.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Throughout this whole period, there are endless Anglo-Dutch wars going on.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

They're extremely complicated.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

There's wars, there are peace treaties, there's wars again.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But of course, as Anita, you mentioned, the Dutch have formed a colony, New Amsterdam, which is essentially Manhattan around there.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And this is their toehold in North America.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

Now, at one point, at one of the many, many peace treaties, run is given, delivered back to the English under the terms of the treaty.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

But the Dutch refused to give it up.

Empire: World History
359. Spice Wars: The Birth of New York (Ep 2)

And the English really are really fed up by now with the Dutch.